TigerLilly said:

Third, sometimes when we critize a government the citizens feel critized too. The French do not take kindly to WWII jokes, the Brits were upset if people critized Churchil in the 40s, and Pierre Trudeau comments did not endear Candanians to many people. Just because "you" don't like a particular offical doesn't mean that someone else doesn't. I never did like Bill Clinton but many of my friends did. But I would never be rude enough to tell them they voted for a man who couldn't keep his cock in his pants and thought more often with it than his brain which was the size of an unfertilized egg. I may think that but just wouldn't tell that to them.

Perkin-AUS said:
My god. How on earth did you put those string of "facts" together Jason from what I posted?

"Posts like yours remind us parents that it's not all just homophobia and that there actually are homosexuals out there who think that men should be permitted to molest little boys."

Where did you read in my post that I said that?

I am really stunned by the self righteous tone of your post "...us parents..." as if heterosexual parents are in any better position than those of us who are homosexual and do not have biological offspring. You are not in my position, you do not live my life, you cannot say with any justification that "...haven't heard of any homosexuals being falsely accused..."

Tell me something - do you have people look at you strangely when you hug your children in public? Do you wonder if someone who overhears your conversation with your children when you tell them that you love them, that you think they are beautiful, wonderful, amazing that they may be assuming something less than pure? Have you ever had to endure the gut-wrenching reaction you feel when someone tells you to your face "...I had better watch my sons around you..."?

(I have two god-children whom I adore. One is female and 14, the other male and 5. He has a brother who is 11. I enjoy spending time with them, treating them as adults )and not talking down to the them and assuming that because they are chronologically younger they have to be treated as infantile.

You have totally misread and misrepresented my post. Let me make it crystal clear for you and anyone else who believes the same thing that you seem to believe. I do not support the notion or the practice of pedophilia. I do not support the contemporary mania for trial by media. I do not support mindless mob action, something which is easy to unleash and impossible to halt without dire consequences. In a civilized society, there are laws and legal conventions and structures to maintain a balanced perspective. Those that offend can be dealt with appropriately and more importantly dealt with in ways that can understand why they offend and prevent them from reoffending on an ongoing basis. (Incaceration without rehabilition is not a workable solution.) Help, understanding and protection of those who are most vulnerable is paramount, yet, destroying the foundations of a civilized society by descending to witchhunts and guilt by association will not serve our future generations at all. Surely the one thing each generation MUST do is to bequeath a more tolerant, liveable and advanced society to the generations that follow. To live in a climate of fear is as irrational as believing that the world is flat and that mental illness is caused by demonic possession.

Thank you for posting, Jason. It reminds me that not everyone can see the future the same way.

jakhamer said:
You treat a 14 y.o, an 11 y.o. and a 5y.o. as adults?! You don't even realize how ridiculous that sounds do you?! But then...you're not a biological parent either...!!