It's hard to fault what Rocket states.
Here is why I feel things haven't worked so far....
Firstly there's the simple forum rule that the "wanking it now" brigade don't seem to understand or don't want to obey.
You get a build up of those quality rooms he refers to, then you get even more "I'm wanking it in here right now" responses which cheapen what the host has done.
We do not need reminding of these rooms. If the thread wasn't full of that shit, guys would take a look at the last one or two pages of good quality posts and choose a room from there.
We hosts only bump our rooms when the thread gets full of the crap "wank it now" one off rooms that people have soiled it with.
The next point is the unnecessary amount of choice that we have to put up with. We're very simple creatures with simple needs and once we've homed in on our category, we pretty much stick with it. Provided it's a good room that is updated with a rota of fresh videos, it will be the only one we need. Why would anyone want to trawl through a list of dozens of videos under the same banner only to go from one unpopulated room to the next, until they find the "go to" room for that kink ?! So, while the posts that list multiple rooms are commendable for their time and effort, I feel they actually damage the mycircle concept.
I hope we can be adult about this and not pick on each other, as has already happened in this thread.
I for one would be willing to enter into a dialogue with the governor(s) along with other good room hosts, put all our ideas together and see what will work best, with their approval, because let's face it - if we make another thread it's going to be strewn with "wank it now" posts immediately.
We'd just be going round in circles over mycircle.
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blackjackx89 said:
Not gonna lie this has become quite annoying. I understand the reasoning behind it but the execution is flawed. How many registered users does this forum have? Not all of them are gonna adhere to the rules and they do need to be reminded of them.
However, updating an index shouldn't be a problem. I know that's not the issue at hand but that is the general idea behind those threads. Even if those threads have a notice posted in bold, all-caps at the top other users would still do it.
Not gonna lie this has become quite annoying. I understand the reasoning behind it but the execution is flawed. How many registered users does this forum have? Not all of them are gonna adhere to the rules and they do need to be reminded of them.
However, updating an index shouldn't be a problem. I know that's not the issue at hand but that is the general idea behind those threads. Even if those threads have a notice posted in bold, all-caps at the top other users would still do it.
Never said that updating an index was the problem.
As you point out, it's those who choose to violate the rules that are the problem. Being perfectly frank, we can't check up on each individual post made to each individual thread at all times. Subjects that lend themselves to being abused by those who choose to break the rules - such as a MyCircle index - are checked a little more frequently, but, in the interest of time management, if removing just the violating posts will eliminate a decent proportion of the thread, the entire thread will be closed.
Being even more frank, I'd hope that, when such a thing happens, it would spur those abiding by the rules and finding their threads/posts closed to put a little peer pressure on the ones who led the thread to that conclusion.
Rocket654 said:
Instead of arguing, I will now simply give some feedback as to why I think a thread for these rooms is better than posting them in the chat.
These rooms thrive on a sustained large population. When they are posted to the thread, the link stays visible for longer. Users familiar with the thread begin to recognize the quality rooms, so when an update or link (with a reasonable amount of time between posts) to one of these rooms is posted, the rooms can usually sustain a good population of active users. Someone who checks the thread a several hours after the link has been posted can usually still find an active room.
On the other hand, posting a room to the chat will bring some immediate users to the room, but the population will quickly fall, and the users are not usually as active. Not to mention, mycircle links aren't even allowed to be posted to the main chatroom.
Instead of arguing, I will now simply give some feedback as to why I think a thread for these rooms is better than posting them in the chat.
These rooms thrive on a sustained large population. When they are posted to the thread, the link stays visible for longer. Users familiar with the thread begin to recognize the quality rooms, so when an update or link (with a reasonable amount of time between posts) to one of these rooms is posted, the rooms can usually sustain a good population of active users. Someone who checks the thread a several hours after the link has been posted can usually still find an active room.
On the other hand, posting a room to the chat will bring some immediate users to the room, but the population will quickly fall, and the users are not usually as active. Not to mention, mycircle links aren't even allowed to be posted to the main chatroom.
As noted, an index thread is not the problem. Those abusing the index thread and turning it into an ongoing series of "jack with me now" posts are. They are the ones being directed to the chat to post their seemingly urgent needs. I went lt into a bit more detail of the logistics in my last reply.
As always, feedback is welcome. A few things to keep in mind when it comes to that feedback:
- The site is 100% custom code, written by the owner. As such, we do not have auto-pruning or mass deletion features that may be found in other content management systems at this time. For the kind of thing we're discussing here, we can lock threads, delete individual posts (one at a time), or delete entire threads at once.
- All mods work on a volunteer basis, using whatever time we have available to work the site. (As I type this, I should be running a report and getting feedback out to people for my "real" job.
) So, we can't watch specific threads prone to attract "now" posters for each post made and catch them then. Also, given the custom nature of the site, there's no way to set a thread or section to "moderated posting," which would require all posts to be approved before going through.- Any suggestions requiring new controls for the site (like some mentioned above) would require the owner to write new code to include those features. Provided it was something he is able to do, it wouldn't happen overnight.
Finally, to those creating such indices, if you see someone abusing your thread with "now" posts, you're more than welcome to report it, before it gets the thread to the point of it being more time efficient to close the thread than to just delete a post or two.
And now, off to do the work that my boss thinks I'm already doing....
And now, off to do the work that my boss thinks I'm already doing....
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What if we all went our separate ways ?
I mean each room has its individual thread ? That would mean the thread would be supported by people who actually care about the room and its content.
For instance the host could start a new thread with this sort of title....
"The Porn Addicts Corner Mycircle Room Appreciation Club"
That way if you're a fan you'll just pop in there any time and only a total moron would write "I'm in here right now, please join me."
The room creator/host could be the sort of "moderator" for that thread so he could call out useless "now" posts like this and embarrass those people into stopping it once and for all.
It would also be up to the host of the particular room to bump the thread so it is not forgotten. Not every fucking day or anything, but now and again just to let the fans know about any updates, maybe share pictures with each other etc.
What do you think of that plan ?
I mean each room has its individual thread ? That would mean the thread would be supported by people who actually care about the room and its content.
For instance the host could start a new thread with this sort of title....
"The Porn Addicts Corner Mycircle Room Appreciation Club"
That way if you're a fan you'll just pop in there any time and only a total moron would write "I'm in here right now, please join me."
The room creator/host could be the sort of "moderator" for that thread so he could call out useless "now" posts like this and embarrass those people into stopping it once and for all.
It would also be up to the host of the particular room to bump the thread so it is not forgotten. Not every fucking day or anything, but now and again just to let the fans know about any updates, maybe share pictures with each other etc.
What do you think of that plan ?
Rocket654 said:
Instead of arguing, I will now simply give some feedback as to why I think a thread for these rooms is better than posting them in the chat.
These rooms thrive on a sustained large population. When they are posted to the thread, the link stays visible for longer. Users familiar with the thread begin to recognize the quality rooms, so when an update or link (with a reasonable amount of time between posts) to one of these rooms is posted, the rooms can usually sustain a good population of active users. Someone who checks the thread a several hours after the link has been posted can usually still find an active room.
On the other hand, posting a room to the chat will bring some immediate users to the room, but the population will quickly fall, and the users are not usually as active. Not to mention, mycircle links aren't even allowed to be posted to the main chatroom.
Instead of arguing, I will now simply give some feedback as to why I think a thread for these rooms is better than posting them in the chat.
These rooms thrive on a sustained large population. When they are posted to the thread, the link stays visible for longer. Users familiar with the thread begin to recognize the quality rooms, so when an update or link (with a reasonable amount of time between posts) to one of these rooms is posted, the rooms can usually sustain a good population of active users. Someone who checks the thread a several hours after the link has been posted can usually still find an active room.
On the other hand, posting a room to the chat will bring some immediate users to the room, but the population will quickly fall, and the users are not usually as active. Not to mention, mycircle links aren't even allowed to be posted to the main chatroom.
Said better than I could have. I know it can be annoying to have all the "now" posts, but not having the thread at all has already made it more difficult to find a good room. I don't think it will be possible to control the "now" posters. I would rather have the thread with the good posts + the spam than no thread at all.
Owner of the now defunct Gravure Idols Mycircle
I hate to see the threads go, but I understand that people ruined it by excessively bumping and posting "jack off with me now" posts. Thanks to the mods for taking care of it. Hopefully we can find some ground rules about bumping and ban the people who post "now" posts. Then get back to beating off like we're supposed to be doing.
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Locking these threads is getting old quick.
To the mods who think this is a solution you should know there has been a lot of discussion off-site of finding an alternative to jackinchat over these heavy handed actions.
You may find some of the people associated with using mycircle on here irritating but it would be sad losing users because of these over-reactions.
To the mods who think this is a solution you should know there has been a lot of discussion off-site of finding an alternative to jackinchat over these heavy handed actions.
You may find some of the people associated with using mycircle on here irritating but it would be sad losing users because of these over-reactions.
MyCircle threads are a primary reason for me coming to this site.
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If I may chime in, and this is just my opinion
of how I'm looking at this matter, if I were
a site owner...
1) A few bad apples ruin the entire crop.
Burn the bad apples. If that doesn't work,
then I'd have to burn the entire crop thanks
to the bad apples.
Don't blame me, blame the bad apples.
If you see a bad apple, Report it.
The staff are doing their best to clean house,
but it also takes a Community to moderate
an entire site.
2) Spam in any way shape and form is distracting
to an entire web group, in this case the "now" posts.
What makes the individual think he can offer me
"no one else has"... Right Now? Bitch Please.
It's plain Redundant.
3) Someone might say "if you lock or delete threads
or rooms users will go to another site"...
My response: Bon voyage, and please don't send
back any postcards.
Membership and site traffic comes and goes,
every day and night.
Is the staff supposed to feel threatened that members
will find alternative sites? Ouch, that tickles.
What's the real reason for joining this site,
or any site, for that matter?
No matter where you go, the issues are the same
at any other jack site.
Let's see how other jack sites will tolerate your
"now" posts until you migrate again.
I would rather lose members to other sites than
have my site saturated by a bunch of "now"
spam posts.
I often see a shitload of "now" posts around here
at odd hours overnight, some are even bumped.
Those "now" posts are no different than
the typical Craigslist "wanna suck cock NOW" ads,
and they're just as vane and desperate as such;
especially when they get bumped and re-posted.
I flag such ads on Craigslist because many of them
are Fake or Spam.... the ol Whack-a-mole routine.
...members logging in shouldn't have to
play "Craigslist Whack-a-mole" here in JackinChat.
Many of us want to participate in topics and rooms
without getting distracted by "right now" posts.
Yes, meet up and have fun whenever you can;
but don't spam the site looking to get laid "now".
Wanna jack "right now"? Invite someone via
private message, don't disturb an entire thread
or chat room.
I shouldn't even chime in here with this, as I never
visit Any of the chat rooms on this site.
But those who do visit the chat rooms and threads
deserve a lot more respect and consideration
by not being disturbed with "now" posts.
Or, perhaps I'm missing a point in this entire matter?
Again, my statements above is just my opinion,
they're nothing more.
If I get flamed for this, you should really
flame those who ruin the fun for everyone else.
of how I'm looking at this matter, if I were
a site owner...
1) A few bad apples ruin the entire crop.
Burn the bad apples. If that doesn't work,
then I'd have to burn the entire crop thanks
to the bad apples.
Don't blame me, blame the bad apples.
If you see a bad apple, Report it.
The staff are doing their best to clean house,
but it also takes a Community to moderate
an entire site.
2) Spam in any way shape and form is distracting
to an entire web group, in this case the "now" posts.
What makes the individual think he can offer me
"no one else has"... Right Now? Bitch Please.
It's plain Redundant.
3) Someone might say "if you lock or delete threads
or rooms users will go to another site"...
My response: Bon voyage, and please don't send
back any postcards.
Membership and site traffic comes and goes,
every day and night.
Is the staff supposed to feel threatened that members
will find alternative sites? Ouch, that tickles.
What's the real reason for joining this site,
or any site, for that matter?
No matter where you go, the issues are the same
at any other jack site.
Let's see how other jack sites will tolerate your
"now" posts until you migrate again.
I would rather lose members to other sites than
have my site saturated by a bunch of "now"
spam posts.
I often see a shitload of "now" posts around here
at odd hours overnight, some are even bumped.
Those "now" posts are no different than
the typical Craigslist "wanna suck cock NOW" ads,
and they're just as vane and desperate as such;
especially when they get bumped and re-posted.
I flag such ads on Craigslist because many of them
are Fake or Spam.... the ol Whack-a-mole routine.
...members logging in shouldn't have to
play "Craigslist Whack-a-mole" here in JackinChat.
Many of us want to participate in topics and rooms
without getting distracted by "right now" posts.
Yes, meet up and have fun whenever you can;
but don't spam the site looking to get laid "now".
Wanna jack "right now"? Invite someone via
private message, don't disturb an entire thread
or chat room.
I shouldn't even chime in here with this, as I never
visit Any of the chat rooms on this site.
But those who do visit the chat rooms and threads
deserve a lot more respect and consideration
by not being disturbed with "now" posts.
Or, perhaps I'm missing a point in this entire matter?
Again, my statements above is just my opinion,
they're nothing more.
If I get flamed for this, you should really
flame those who ruin the fun for everyone else.
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