During a very lonely and bleak time in my life, I got very attached to a chat-buddie on here. I used to masturbate with her on here every chance we got. Since she was in the States and I was in Europe and we both worked, this often meant getting up at strange times in the night. The language that we used when having cyber-sex quickly got charged with more than just the usual "suck-my-clit" physical rough-house. It got very emotional, and then it took a form of "I love you." That was very baffling to both of us. How can you write "I love you" to a cyberidentity? But we did, and we both started to mean it. To the point of serious jealousy. A ten-minte delay in getting on line led to "Where have you been?" accusations. Specially from me. I so desparately needed that reassurance that her hand was working her pussy as mine hand was working mine. Then once I got on line at what would have been five in the morning for her. She was on-line, but not actively in the chat. She was pvting someone else! I nearly freaked out. It was a pang of the most unspeakably painful jealousy I have ever experienced. I tried to pvt her, but she didn't answer for a long time. When she finally answered, I asked her where she'd been. She said chatting a a friend. I asked her if they'd masturbated together. She said: "Of course, why else do people chat?" I don't think she really had, but she said it to make me screaming jealous. Then she started on how this other girl could cum just off her nipples, and how they'd been trying it together. I was weeping and raging with jealous fury. And utterly despising myself at the same time: how could I feel like this for a shadow I knew only as words on a screen and a few (I now know fake) photographs? I think Secret's question is a good one. How and why do people get so involved on here? My feelings were just a real as those I've felt for actual people. Not deep and not stable, but real as hell.

Well, it's all over now, but it leaves a lot of questions in my mind about my ability to separate real life from fantasy and what happens on the internet from what actually happens day-to-day.

Maybe I'm nuts????? Or what????

Larissa

For a long while pictures didn't turn me on, but now they do. Got a new camera for Christmas and me and my gf took loads of picture of each other masturbating, masturbating, masturbating. Then we got one of those picture frames that takes a memory stick. It sits on the bookshelf in the living room and pumps out pictures of us doing every possible thing to ourselves and to each other. I'm looking at it now. Oh fuck!!!! Ourselves as porno queens. I just love this modern technology that helps us get back to our most primitive animal feelings.

Larissa

Why only ask about sucking cocks? Girls got something to suck on too. And actually nature seems to have planned it that way. Sucking my gf's nipples. Mmmmm. And down there!! That really has a taste to it. And lots of intricate little bits to get your tongue into. I think girls are just built more interesting than guys. By the way anyone watched those "Lesbian bukkake" videos. Or ever done that? Seems like you can drown doing that stuff. Expect it's all fake though. But it sure looks like they can beat up a rainstorm.

Larissa

The survey on women masturbating started me thinking about something I've never got to the bottom of (if you'll excuse the expression). I know little girls touch themselves now and then, but that hardly counts as masturbation. I'd call masturbation deliberate, sustained excitement of the vagina (etc) in the pursuit of pleasure. At what age do girls these days actually start doing that? And at what age can a girl start to have orgasms? I say "these days" because some younger girls I've been talking to (schoolfriends of my gf) say that they learned to masturbate quite young from seeing porn. Quite young kids have access to it nowadays, often when they're shown it by slightly older kids. In Germany, where I live, I'm hearing six or seven as a normal age to start masturbating (as defined above) and nine or ten to start having orgasms. Those figures are correct for my gf (who is 19), but way out for me (I'm 23). Have things been changing rapidly? Anyone got young friends and knows about this? And if it is true, girls of six starting serious frigging, is this a problem? Or a welcome development?

Anyone know anything?

Larissa

"NE one" isn't way of saving time. It's a way of annoying NE one who doesn't enjoy cyberchat for its own sake. It's a way of saying "fuck off" to school ma'ams (of both sexes). But i agree, two kinds of horrific manners makes me give up in disgust sometimes and find some honest porn. One is the bastards (again of both sexes) who don't even say goodbye. The other is the multi-taskers who try to chat in pvt with half the room. Boring people. So self-centred. Couldn't that be avoided by fiddling with the hardware: one chat at a time -- al the rest marked "You Are On Hold: Someone will attend to your needs as soon as possible."

Still, despite all our peeves, where would be be on lonely nights without JIC?

Larissa

Process

1. How often do you masturbate these days?

Several times a day normally

2. Where and when do you typically masturbate?

Before I get up, when I get in from work, before I sleep, during the night

3. How old were you when you discovered masturbation? What gave you the idea to try it?

18. A guy felt me till I came. First time. Before that I thought you went to hell if you touched yrself. Now I know you go to heaven

4. Did you orgasm the first time? If not, how long was it before you did?

See 3

5. Did masturbation become a regular thing soon after you discovered it? If not, has it ever? When?

See 3

6. Is masturbation a regular routine, meaning that you normally do it at a regular time without forethought or planning?

Very routine. If I can't get to do it for some reason (alarm clock goes off late) I have to find a way pretty soon after or I get real grouchy


7. Do certain things get you thinking about masturbating?

I'm Lesbian. Yes, certain things like breasts, backsides, pretty smiles, prtetty hair. In a word, girls

8. Do you ever look forward to masturbating when you know you’re soon going to?

Somewhat

9. Do you ever look forward to getting away from people so you can masturbate?

Depends where I am. If I get the urge at work, I get away (toilet usually). At home, depends who's there. If it's my gf we do it together. At a party, I might just do it anyhow.

10. Are you normally already wet when you start masturbating, or does it take some time for you to get excited?

I get wet quickly. No problem

11. Do you leave a wet spot when you masturbate?

I dribble, yes

12. Do you ever masturbate to near-orgasm but stop before the orgasm occurs?

No. I go through the orgasm to get the next one

13. Do you ever start masturbating but lack the motivation or excitement to carry it to orgasm?

I have a routine: when I wake up in the night, I put my hand on my pussy and start to work her. Quite often I fall back to sleep without cumming

14. Do you ever have trouble reaching orgasm even though you really want to? If so, do you force an orgasm or do you eventually give up?

Force it

15. Have you ever masturbated so much you were sore afterwards?

Sore yes, but not so sore I couldn't carry on


16. At what point in your life did you masturbate most often? How often was that?

Not sure. Lesbians masturbate as their basic way of having sex. Does this question include being masturbated by a gf?

17. Have you ever masturbated standing up?

Why not?

18. Have you ever masturbated sitting up?

In the bus even

19. Have you ever masturbated through your clothes?

Yes

20. How long do you typically spend in one masturbation session?

On my own, till I come a couple of times. Ten to fifteen minutes. With a gf, for ever

21. What’s the longest time you’ve spent masturbating?

You mean non-stop feeling myself, nipples, pussy and ass? Three of four hours maybe. With short breaks, much longer

22. If you’re really in a hurry, how quickly can you bring yourself to orgasm?

Minute or two

Orgasms

23. Do you typically have both clitoral and vaginal orgasms when masturbating, or just one or the other? If both, which happens first? In general, how many of each?

Big on clit. Don't often get it vaginal. I can keep my clit going for five or six orgams easily, but they get smaller

24. What's the most orgasms you’ve had while masturbating?

Hard to count. Sometimes it just keeps rolling in waves. Depends a bit what I've been "consuming."

Places

25. Have you ever masturbated in a public restroom?

yes

26. Have you ever masturbated outdoors?

yes

27. Have you ever masturbated while you were driving?

driving myself nuts maybe. dont have a license to drive a car

28. Have you ever masturbated in a moving car/truck while someone else was driving?

yes, nude too at night a few times

29. Have you ever masturbated in an airplane?

no

30. Have you ever masturbated at work?

in the toilet. give myself a feel at my desk often enough

31. Have you ever masturbated in other unusual places? If so, where?

With my gf, all over the place. Put something over out laps in the bus or train. In the park, specially at night. Kiss in shop doorways and rub each other.

32. Have you ever been caught, or almost caught, masturbating? If so, how did that happen?

I've masturbated in public quite often: parties, night club where I used to work. Is that getting "caught"?

Other People

33. Have you ever masturbated with someone on the phone?

yes

34. Have you ever masturbated with someone online in text chat?

yes

35. Have you ever masturbated with someone on video chat?

no

36. Have you ever masturbated while talking on the phone to someone who didn’t know you were masturbating?

no

37. Have you ever masturbated while someone was sleeping next to you?

most nights. unless she wakes up when we do it together

38. Have you ever masturbated while someone else was present who didn’t know you were masturbating?

yes

39. Have you ever masturbated with a man watching?

Men, in fact.

40. Have you ever watched a man masturbate?

I did that bukkake stuff couple of times at parties. Does that count?

41. Have you ever masturbated with a woman watching?

Every day

42. Have you ever watched a woman masturbate?

Every day

43. Have you ever masturbated with more than one person present?

Yes. On stage

Touching

44. Have you ever put your finger in your asshole? If so, how often do you do that?

Nearly always

45. Do you ever touch your breasts while masturbating? If so, how often do you do that?

One way I go for more orgasms is to hurt my nipples. I enjoy pain inflicted on me for purely sexual reasons

46. Do you use objects when you masturbate? If so, describe them (size, shape, etc.). How often do you use objects as opposed to just your fingers?

Fingers

47. When masturbating with just your fingers, do you usually penetrate your pussy, rub your clit, or both? Do you use both hands? Do you finger your G-spot?

Never found the famous g-spot. Nor has any girl I ever masturbated with. Is it for real?

48. Have you ever tasted your own vaginal juices? What did you think?

Being Lesbian I spend a lot of time with my mouth on her vagina and her mouth on mine. I love to taste myself on her lips when I kiss her.

Fantasy

49. Do you think about movie stars / music stars / other celebrities? If so, who?

Never

50. Do you think about people you know?

Yes. Specially about younger girls I know, but would NEVER try to seduce in real life.

51. Do you think about previous partners?

Seldom

52. Do you think about anonymous people / body parts?

No

53. What sort of activities do you think about?

Fucking, sucking, masturbating

54. What’s your favorite / most common fantasy while masturbating?

I don't fantasize much. I just enjoy the physical sensations of sex.

55. What’s your wildest fantasy?

A world without penises

Pornography

56. Have you ever masturbated alone with pornography? How often? Describe the pornography (male / female, pictures / video, Internet / magazine / DVD, etc.)

Yes. We often put a slide show on the tv, so there's pictures flashing away a lot of the time. Lesbian sex, girls masturbating, Lesbian domination and whipping

57. If you’ve ever masturbated with other people, was there pornography involved?

See 56

As a student I worked as a nude waitress in a club where there was a stage where various pervy acts went on. I think being a stripper or a nude waitress is great. So what if everyone sees yr anatomy? It's nothing to ashamed of. (At least mine isn't.) If I'd have worked at McDonalds I'd have made about 10% of what I could earn with tips at the club. Did I lead anyone astray? Don't think so. Did I get felt up and stuff? Sometimes. The way tips were given was to roll up the bill and put it up you know where. (This is in Germany where such things are more common.) It made me so horny getting out there in just my high heels. And I stayed horny the whole time, partly from being exhibited like that and partly from watching the shows. I think if yr okay with yr own sexuality and yr own body, it's no problem. Maybe someone might take on work like that purely for the cash, but I think they'd drop it pretty quick if it made them feel bad all the time.

My Dad told me quite recently that my Mom had been an "exotic dancer" as he called it when he met her. News to me! That was after he found out what work I was doing. It amused the heck out of him. He thinks it must be genetic. Maybe he's right.

Gave it up though when I started to go steady.

Larissa

Yes Frank:

Human beings have improved on God's arrangements in many ways. Housing, transport, refrigeration, clothing to name a few. If God really planned sexual reproduction the way it usually goes, He must have been nuts. And I'll tell him if you have his e-mail address.

Larissa

Reading the thread on "Public Masturbation" there seems to be a big difference of opinion. Everyone agrees it's fun to do it in public, though mostly it seems jackinchatters have experience of doing it secretly rather than openly, let's say at a party or at a dirty disco. Where the disagreement comes is on whether it's easier for a male or a female to frig themselves "in public." My own first idea was that obviously it's easier with a pussy: no inconveninet bulge and no need to expose anything. On the other hand pulling up your skirt or stuffing your hand down your jeans isn't that convenient either? Anyone got any views on this?

I think I've said this on this site somewhere before. Physically speaking, Lesbians can only masturbate, themselves or others. Or is oral sex not a kind of masturbation? Honestly, what's the point of drawing lines between one way of having an orgasm and another? Can it possibly be so that having an orgasm with a cock in you is healthy whuile having on oragasm with a finger or a tongue in you is unhealthy? Who invents garbage like this?

Larissa

Many levels to being horny.

Level 1 is when you feel that somebody ought to hug you and be quick about it. You just want contact and a bit of affection. If you get enough hugs and kisses, your (my) need to cum is a lot less over course of the day.

Level 2 is I'm getting hugs and maybe also felt up. This could be a hand on my breast(s), between my legs, moving up my skirt. This is simply a pleasant sensation (if the right person is doing it right).

Level 3 is when I'm getting this nice sensation and I want more of it. That means I get this craving in my fingertips in my lips, on the tip of my tongue: I want to reach out and give so that I can take more. This stage is about as far as you can go in public, so it sometimes builds up till Level 4 becomes a craving.

Level 4 is when I'm really horny. I want to be kissed and felt and loved. But the sensation is strongest between my legs (all over "down there", in my breasts and in my mouth. What might be called "fuck-juice" starts to flow. I get all moist and ready for some heavy work round my clit. Wet if this level goes on for a while. I get orgasms quite easily, and this is the point at which my whole nervous system starts cranking up for the next one. I know what it will be like and I want it like hell. This is the point at which I think all females "lose their brains." I think one difference to guys is that girls get this same longing to some extent all over their whole body, not just in the crucial bits.

Anyhow, that's the best I can describe it. Seems kinda lame when I read it through. What did I miss???? Still, I tried.

Larissa

I think I was somewhat abnormal in that I had my first sex with a guy before I started to take care of my own orgasms. I was 18. He was the son of an Italian who ran a pizza place where I sometimes ate. (If consuming pizza can really be called "eating." He was after me, got me drunk, took me to his room above the pizza parlor (it was in Germany). I thought I was in love with him. Once he'd had his way he totally lost interest in me. But he did have the "decency" to feel me so hard and so long that I came ("cummed"?) during that first sex. I was brought up religious and got it real bad during my early teen years. So I was certain that you went to hell if you even touched yourself. Which meant most of the girls I knew were doomed and all the guys. It amazes me when I look back, but I held out till 18 when nature took over. The guy was a jerk, but he did break the ice. Praise the Lord! I think between 18 and 20 I made up for lost time. But that is "off-thread" and I don't want to get told off.

Larissa

Ho ohdean!

Do I hear you right? "Apart from his penis, a real man is actually a girl." Or am I putting words into your mouth?

Larissa

I don't have a penis. I don't want a penis either one of my own or one in me, up me, or squirting in my direction. I don't fantasize about penises, not even about castrating knives or any of that stuff. I foresee the future as a penis-free world when reproduction takes place through eggs fertilized by tissue from oneself (cloning) or another woman. Go on. Hit me!!!! But you won't change my mind.

Larissa

I love looking at pictures or movies of young girls masturbating. STRICTLY 18+ of course. Masturbating themselves, specially their own nipples. Mastubating their gf's. Two girls with their hands working each other's pussies or nipples. Also a rather older woman leading on a beginning girl. I like to surf for the pix I want to collect and keep playing with myself the whole time. Or put a file of collected pictures in "Slide Show" mode and really go for it. My gf enjoys the shows, though she doesn't watch them on her own. As to surfing, she finds it too boring. In answer to the original question, I don't think I ever met a girl who can honestly say there's no kind of porn that turns her on.

Larissa